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Federal officials and researchers said that a new technology has been engineered which measures the driver´s blood alcohol content and subsequently prevents the car from starting.

Breath and touch sensors placed on steering wheels and door locks are able to check the driver´s alcohol level. However, it may take a decade until the technology can be found in vehicles.

U.S. Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood said the device won´t be obligatory in future cars and automakers can decide if they use it or not.

  Source: www.msnbc.msn.com     WebReporter: caramba         Recommendation:   ASSESS this news:BLOCK this news. Reason:Assessment:very goodgoodmoderatebadvery badReason:entertaininginformativeinterestingup to datewell summarisedincompletenews out of datenot well formulatedtitle is misleadingtoo many errorsuninterestingwrong channelbelongs to Soft News!belongs to Tips&Tricks!Falsely reportedmasked advertisingnews appears twicenews is a hoaxnews is an opinionnews is illegal!news only copiedwrong source     16 Comments    ...  you know I´ve wondered for a while why the technology to detect blood alcohol levels hasn´t been implemented in to cars.

I´m steadfast in my position to personal freedom as long as it doesn´t infringe on other peoples freedoms. Driving drunk can deprive other people of their lives (their right to live) so I don´t think this would infringe personal freedoms. Especially since driving is a privilage, not a right.

I do not drink, and I don´t like alcohol, but I wouldn´t care if I even had to breathe in to a breathalyzer every time I needed to start my car if a minor inconvenience to me could save thousands of lives each year. the US alone averages 40,000 alcohol related driving fatalities every year.   by:EricS   01/31/2011 10:48 PM     It´s a Sillding slope  Pretty soon you won´t be able to use a microwave oven without peeing into a cup. This whole idea of trying to prevent people from doing crimes is going to put us all into electronic ball and chains just so that we can all feel safe. How about giving men chastity belts as a way to prevent rape? If you want to get permission to have sex you´ll have to phone in to HQ for authorization.   by:artfuldodger  01/31/2011 11:40 PM     @EricS  Also different states in the USA have different "legal" limits, not to mention different countries. Can you imagin the ramifications of this? Car manufactures would not foot the bill for the required updates. Also in a place like the USA, you drive accross the border that happens to have tighter controls, your legal one minute, illegal the next but you car still starts, do you have a right to then sue the car manufacturer? I mean the car is designed not to start if you have above the legal limit and all.   by:ssxxxssssss  02/01/2011 12:53 AM     It´s a Sillding slope  Pretty soon you won´t be able to use a microwave oven without peeing into a cup. This whole idea of trying to prevent people from doing crimes is going to put us all into electronic ball and chains just so that we can all feel safe. How about giving men chastity belts as a way to prevent rape? If you want to get permission to have sex you´ll have to phone in to HQ for authorization.   by:artfuldodger  02/01/2011 12:53 AM     ...  well I do have to agree that it is obvious that there are a shitload of variables. The "legal limits" variances had occurred to me. Maybe the solution to the variables is a zero-tolerance. you have 1 beer, you will have to wait the 1 to 2 hours for it to be out of your system.   by:EricS   02/01/2011 01:46 AM     @EricS  Wowser.
Screw that.
There is No evidence to suggest that low level alcohol makes a difference. High range drunkenness does but 1 beer will not do anything, having a conversation with a passenger will increase the chances of a accident by a greater level. There are studies in Australia that prove talking on a phone is worse than being mid range drunk let alone low range.

and 40,000 when if there were factors other than alcohol it will be said to be alcohol that caused it. the US has over 10,000 killed by handguns alone and handguns don´t drive you to work everyday. So put it in perspective a Car is used a lot more than a handgun and the deaths are accidental.

And what about all those that can drive for sh!t sober?   by:veya_victaous   02/01/2011 02:14 AM     ...  I can have one beer and be buzzed. Once again it´s all variables right? I don´t drink so I have a low tolerance. So let´s say that I pour a beer down my throat and I haven´t eaten anything for 24hrs, I would most likely blow over, because of the variables.

Okay, let me change the stats number I have here... apparently the website that I got the figure from was confused. According to the US Census website there is approximately 10,000,000 car accidents per year. 40,000 resulted in death. Of those 40,000 approximately 15,000 had blood alcohol of 0.1+.

So the fatal accident rate in which alcohol was a factor is almost 40%. That is not calculating in how much of the 10,000,000 accidents that had alcohol as a factor.

I can´t get in to guns as they are a whole different can of worms.

And as for the people who can´t drive for shit, I place the blame on the DMV. You train drivers young, then when they´re ancient you take away their license if they are unable to drive safely right? well what about in between? why is there no test to keep your license say every 10 years?   by:EricS   02/01/2011 03:24 AM     @Eric  referring to your hypothetical of not eating, doesn´t affect how drunk you get, at all. We got so many briefs about this when I was in the military. It make take a few extra minutes (if even that long) if you have a full stomach before the alcohol gets into your bloodstream.

Your liver can only process x amount per hour of alcohol(varies a bit from person to person). Any more than what your liver can metabolize = you start to get drunk. The "drunk" you get from 1 beer isn´t actually being drunk, it´s you noticing the change in your body more than a person that drinks does.

i.e. you´re not actually drunk, your body is so not used to alcohol being present in it that it freaks out and your brain pays extra special attention.

If you drink one beer a day for about a week, your brain realizes there´s no danger and stops being over reactive to alcohol.

To make it clear, this is different from being drunk. Drunk is when you´ve consumed way more than your liver can metabolize and the alcohol molecules start raping your braincells. There is no "brain ignore mass alcohol" effect to continuously being drunk (though there is chemical tolerance which is a different reaction). I probably didn´t articulate all that very well, but hopefully the point came across clearish.   by:tizubythefizo  02/01/2011 08:20 AM     @tizubythefizo  Umm, if you?re saying that having not eaten and then consuming alcohol doesn?t affect how drunk you get, you?re just flat out wrong. Your level of impairment is not necessarily based on your blood alcohol content. The body absorbs alcohol more rapidly on an empty stomach and hence, the impairing effects of alcohol are greater. Its the speed of the delivery of the chemical into the blood stream that makes the difference. This is why if you are pulled over for a field sobriety test, law enforcement attempts to gather as much information as possible with the primary three questions: Are you on any medication? Have you slept recently? Have you eaten today? As all three of these factors greatly affect your level of impairment they can be used in most states to obtain a jury conviction based on "State v Myles"

http://www.aoc.state.nc.us/...

The case basically forces a jury to convict a suspect who cannot be shown to have been above a .08% BC but was evidenced by the arresting officer to be under extenuating circumstances such as having not eaten. Not eating and consuming alcohol is known scientifically to increase your level of impairment because of the rapid delivery of alcohol into the blood-stream. Thus, such a circumstance can be used legally to imply greater impairment than can be measured by your BAC.

[ edited by zirschky ]   by:zirschky   02/01/2011 09:47 AM     Yes,  this is a great idea, with that many accidents could be avoided.

[ edited by vizhatlan ]   by:vizhatlan   02/01/2011 01:48 PM     technology  different BAC standards between countries would probably be automatic. you could even throw a gps in there to switch between US and canada mode.

but I don´t expect this to become standard issue for the same reason all you guys are upset about it. like the drunk dead switches available now, I expect to see these only in court ordered indivudual´s cars

[ edited by syoware ]   by:syoware  02/01/2011 04:12 PM     What a Dumb Idea     by:Jim8  02/01/2011 05:45 PM     @Jim8  My thoughts exactly.   by:MannyisHere   02/01/2011 05:57 PM     @ Zirschy  Actually you´re more or less wrong.

As I mentioned food can slow down the absorption rate, but is not enough to cause a major change. In fact drinking alcohol on an empty stomach (alcohol that is 40%) will also cause slowed down absorption. Unlike you´re legal source (court ruling != science), here´s an actual scientific source

http://www.forcon.ca/...

Take note that the alcohos volume is the primary factor in absorption rate.

The reason people who eat before drinking don´t get as drunk, they don´t drink as much. They´re already full. (makes sense)   by:tizubythefizo  02/01/2011 09:15 PM     @tizdummythefizo  Did you read your source? Did you notice the section on Bolus Drinking?

Bolus drinking

If alcohol is consumed quickly (bolus drinking), the rate of performance deficit may be further accelerated because the alcohol is absorbed into the blood stream more rapidly. The increasing impairment is generally obvious to the observer due to the greater than expected rate of deterioration in abilities and performance. Tolerance developed to a given BAC, which is achieved on the basis of a social-drinking pattern, may not help to moderate the effects of alcohol when the same BAC is achieved by bolus consumption."

Drinking large quantities of alcohol rapidly has the same effect as drinking on an empty stomach. Its about how much is absorbed and how fast. It has nothing to do with being full and drinking less. Here are some scientific (and non-scientific) sources you might enjoy...

The New York Times: drinking on an empty stomach makes you drunker, faster. Research by a team of Swedish Scientists:
http://www.nytimes.com/...

How about the National Institute of Health. Subpoint 5.3:
http://science.education.nih.gov/...

Virgina Tech seems to think that drinking on an empty stomach significantly speeds the absorption of alcohol:
http://www.alcohol.vt.edu/...

The consensus of the research is that drinking on an empty stomach will speed the absorption rate of alcohol. Period. Impairment is not determined scientifically (or legally for that matter) on the basis of BAC. Impairment is something other than BAC. As is explained by your own source, in the bolus drinking section, rapid delivery of alcohol makes you more impaired (drunker) than slower delivery. So, what can we conclude? Drinking on an empty stomach gets you drunker, faster. The end.   by:zirschky   02/01/2011 09:48 PM     @drunk driving  Has no one stopped to think that drunk drvers always survive the fatal crashes??


why?

because their bodies are more limber
when w ´brace ourselves´ in car accidents thats actually bad.

best solution- go rag doll.

even more- if everyone who drrove was drunk, we can smash eachother all day andd whil the vehicle is wrecked th drunk driver lives.

oh everyonoe was drnk i guess we all live.   by:thedeeder  02/02/2011 09:36 PM     About us   Free Newsticker   General Terms & Conditions      Copyright ©2011 ShortNews GmbH & Co. KG, Contact: info@shortnews.com   Usenet | UseNeXT | UseNeXT Test | ShortNews Germany

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